Hey, I’ve been through this dance with the 3070, 3080, and 4070 Ti launches, so I’ll lay it out as options:

**Option A – Wait for Cyber Monday 2025**
Pros: you’ll *probably* see 5–10% off or a mail‑in rebate / gift card. That’s been the pattern for xx70-class cards in their first big holiday.
Cons: if the 5070 Ti launches close to fall and demand’s high, the “deal” might just be MSRP with a tiny discount or minor bundle.

**Option B – Buy a bit before (1–2 months ahead)**
Pros: this is what I did with my 4070 Ti. Prices settled a bit ~6–8 weeks after launch, and I grabbed a good AIB (MSI Gaming X Trio) at near-MSRP with a free game. No regrets. Availability was good and I got to actually use the card instead of staring at PCPartPicker.
Cons: you *might* miss a slightly better Cyber Monday sale, but in my case the CF deals were only like $30–50 better.

**Option C – Wait for post-holiday / early 2026**
Pros: historically where the real cuts happen (10–15% or better) once Nvidia/AIBs start reacting to competition or slowing demand. My 3070 dropped nicely around 3–4 months after launch.
Cons: that’s a long time with a struggling 2070S at 1440p, and if you’re wanting ray tracing + decent FPS, you’re kinda gimping yourself for months.

**What I’d personally do in your shoes**
With a $650–700 budget and a 2070S, I’d **aim to buy once the 5070 Ti has been out ~6–8 weeks**, then compare:

- If Cyber Monday is close and prices look stable, **wait and see** if you can snag:
- 5–10% off OR
- a good bundle (free game + maybe a PSU discount).
- If Cyber Monday deals are weak (common for fresh xx70 Ti cards), I wouldn’t stress over it. I’ve been happier getting a solid, cool-running AIB model early (ASUS TUF / MSI Gaming X / Gigabyte Gaming OC usually treat me well) than chasing an extra $40–60 later.

From my experience, for cards at that tier, **bundles have been more common than big raw price cuts in the first holiday season**. So yeah, I’d watch for:
- MSRP or slightly-below pricing + game bundle
- Decent cooler design (3-fan, no tiny ITX coolers)
- Retailers: I’ve had the best luck with **Micro Center in-store** and **Best Buy** for early promos, then Amazon for quick price drops.

So, if the 5070 Ti launches mid-2025, I’d treat Cyber Monday as a good time for a *small* discount or a nice bundle, not a huge price crash. If you see it hit your $650–700 range with a solid AIB, I’d be happy pulling the trigger and not over-waiting.

Hope this helps!

Hey, from a pure tech/value angle I’d plan for **small % discounts but better bundles** rather than a big price crash that early.

If 5070 Ti launches anything like 4070 Ti:
- **Cyber Monday year 1**: usually ~5–10% off on base models, but more often it’s **game bundles or small rebate-style promos**. High-end AIBs (Strix/Suprim-type) almost never drop meaningfully that soon.
- The **real price erosion** tends to happen once the next tier or SUPER/refresh cards show up, which is often 4–8 months post-launch, not the first big sale.

Given your 1440p use and 2070S: I’d honestly also consider **“current-gen minus one”** as an alternative strategy:
- By Cyber Monday 2025, something like a **4060 Ti / 4070 class** (or their 50-series equivalents just below 5070 Ti) might sit around **$500–600** with decent RT and DLSS 3/FG, and those *will* see heavier discounts because they’re not the halo midrange part.
- Raw perf uplift from 2070S to anything in the 70-class is already big; paying extra for the first-wave 5070 Ti tax may not be the most cost-effective unless you really want top-tier 1440p RT for years.

If you want to optimize:
- **Track power draw + PSU costs** too. If 5070 Ti is ~250–300 W and you need a PSU upgrade, a good bundle (GPU + Gold PSU) might beat a bare 5–10% GPU cut.
- Watch for **reference/cheaper AIB models** (MSI Ventus, Gigabyte Eagle, PNY, etc.) – these are usually the first to hit your $650–700 window, especially with a mail‑in rebate or retailer gift card.

TL;DR: I’d set expectations at **MSRP – 5–10% + maybe a game/PSU bundle** for Cyber Monday 2025, and keep an open mind about slightly lower-tier cards that could land in a much better perf-per-dollar spot by then.

Hope this helps you plan the upgrade path instead of just gambling on a unicorn discount.

Honestly, with a $650–$700 cap, I’d plan like this: assume 5070 Ti will *not* be in that range on its first Cyber Monday, and treat any small discount as a bonus, not a plan. Historically (3070/4070 gen), the first 6–9 months were mostly MSRP + tiny cuts (like 5–8%) and maybe a free game. The *real* value showed up once the next tier launched or inventory piled up.

From a strict budget/value angle, you might want to:
- **Set a hard limit now** (say $700 total) and don’t go over it even if hype is high.
- **Compare “total build cost”** instead of just GPU: if the 5070 Ti forces a PSU/CPU upgrade, that’s extra hidden cost vs maybe a cheaper 4070/5070 non‑Ti that your system can handle fine.
- **Watch price-per-fps, not just the model name**. If a 5070 non‑Ti or older 4070 Ti drops to, say, $500–$550 with a game, that might be better “value per dollar” than a $750+ 5070 Ti with a tiny Cyber Monday discount.

If you really want to stay under $700, I’d suggest:
- Don’t *count on* Cyber Monday 2025 getting the 5070 Ti into your range; assume it’ll still be above and decide if you’re okay buying an older tier instead.
- Use Cyber Monday to hunt for: previous‑gen high‑end cards, solid PSU bundles, or overall build discounts, rather than a miracle deal on the newest Ti.

So IMO: be careful about waiting specifically for a 5070 Ti Cyber Monday “steal”. Plan your budget assuming almost full price, and keep an eye on slightly older or non‑Ti models that might suddenly become way better bang‑for‑buck around that time.

Hey,

I’d look at this less as “will the 5070 Ti be cheaper?” and more as “*which brands* are likely to discount and how?” from a market point of view.

**1. Brand patterns (from 30/40‑series launches)**
- **MSI / Gigabyte**: usually the first to show real % discounts on mid/high tier models. You’ll see $30–$70 off on SKUs like Gaming X / Eagle / Gaming OC once supply is healthy.
- **ASUS**: TUF/Strix generally hold price longer. You might get a small rebate or game bundle, but deep cuts show up **later** than Cyber Monday in most cases.
- **PNY, Zotac, ASRock**: often the quiet value plays. They don’t hype as hard, but they’re the ones I’ve seen dipping under MSRP first on Newegg/Amazon.

**2. Where deals usually pop up**
- **Micro Center**: best chance for meaningful in‑store combos (GPU + PSU/mobo discounts).
- **Newegg/Amazon**: mail‑in rebates, small cuts, and **AIB‑specific promos** (Gigabyte/MSI especially).
- **Best Buy**: slower, but watch for open‑box and specific partner deals (ASUS/MSI).

**3. What this means for your $650–$700 target**
If the 5070 Ti lands around, say, $749–$799 MSRP (very plausible), then:
- Cyber Monday 2025: I’d expect **standard MSI/Gigabyte/PNY models** to maybe flirt with your range via $50–$100 cuts or bundles, not the premium triple‑fan RGB monsters.
- Real sub‑$650 pricing: more likely **Q1–Q2 2026**, once competition (AMD/next‑gen rumors) forces broader reductions.

**My practical recommendation**
- If you want *maximum value* on Cyber Monday: target **non‑ASUS mid‑tier AIBs** (MSI Gaming, Gigabyte Gaming/Eagle, PNY/Zotac) and be happy if you see ~$50–$80 off + maybe a game.
- If you want a specific premium model (TUF/Strix): don’t count on big Cyber Monday drops; buy when stock is stable and you see a small promo you can live with.
- Also seriously factor in a **PSU or CPU/mobo combo** at Micro Center if that’s accessible – sometimes the effective savings beat a straight GPU price cut.

In your shoes, I’d: track PNY/MSI/Gigabyte on Newegg/Amazon + Micro Center combos, and treat anything in the **$700-ish** range on Cyber Monday as a win, not a guarantee.

Hope this helps!

Hey, so I’ll come at this from a slightly different angle: safety and reliability rather than pure price.

Background: I’ve chased “launch + first big sale” GPUs since the 900‑series. The 3070/3080 and 4070 Ti cycles especially taught me that the *first* wave of “deals” sometimes cost more in headaches than they save in dollars.

Why it matters: early Cyber Monday deals on a new tier (like a 5070 Ti) are often:
- Lesser‑known AIBs pushing aggressive OC/weak coolers
- QA rushed to meet demand
- Higher coil whine / hotspot temps / DOA rates (I’ve had issues with all three… not fun)

Return windows + RMAs around holiday season are also a mess. I had a 3080 that started artifacting two weeks after Black Friday and getting it swapped was way harder than it should’ve been.

So, for safety/reliability, I’d personally:
- **Prioritize proven models over best discount.** Wait for a few months of user reports on specific 5070 Ti AIBs (thermals, VRAM temps, coil whine) and then watch *those exact models* for deals.
- **Stick to safer retailers** for an expensive new card: Best Buy, Micro Center, Amazon sold-by-Amazon. Their return policies and RMA handling saved me multiple times.
- **Watch PSU requirements carefully.** New gens sometimes bump transient spikes. Make sure your PSU is decent *before* you jump; a “cheap” Cyber Monday card paired with an overstressed PSU is how you end up with crashes or, worst case, hardware damage.
- **Bundles can be safer than sketchy deep discounts.** A small price cut + game + PSU discount from a reputable brand is, in my opinion, a better “safe” play than a big markdown from a no-name AIB with a sketchy cooler.

In your shoes, I’d plan like this: don’t lock yourself into Cyber Monday 2025 as *the* date. Wait until there’s a consensus on 1–2 reliable 5070 Ti models, then hope Cyber Monday nudges those into your $650–$700 range. If not, you at least avoid being the guinea pig for early problem cards.

Hope this helps you avoid the kind of RMA hell I’ve been through, lol.

Hey,

I’ll come at this from the long‑term ownership angle rather than pure launch/discount timing.

I’ve gone 970 → 1070 → 2070S → 3070 → 4070 Ti over the years, and the pattern that *actually* mattered to me long term wasn’t “did I save $50–$100 on Black Friday,” it was:

1. **How long did the card stay comfortable at my target res/settings?**
2. **Did I buy the *right* tier, or did I cheap out and end up upgrading earlier?**

### 1. Discounts vs years of use
In my experience, the first‑season discounts on xx70/xx70 Ti cards are usually small enough that, over a 3–5 year ownership window, they’re basically noise. My 2070S and 3070 both saw maybe 5–10% off in their first big sale window. I “saved” a bit waiting, but I also spent an extra 6–9 months on a struggling card.

If your 2070S is already hurting at 1440p with RT, I’d factor in the **value of those extra months of smooth gaming**. If you keep GPUs 4–5 years (which is what it sounds like), getting in slightly earlier often beats chasing the perfect Cyber Monday price.

### 2. Tier matters more than sale
The other lesson I learned: buying one tier too low to save $100 upfront cost me more later. I upgraded my 3070 way sooner than I planned because 1440p RT just stopped being fun.

So for you, I’d do this:
- **Plan around performance first**: make sure the 5070 Ti is actually the class of card that’ll hold 1440p + some RT for 3–4 years. If it ends up being more like a “strong 70, weak Ti,” you may be better off stretching for the next tier up instead of depending on a sale.
- **Treat Cyber Monday as a bonus, not the goal**: expect ~5–10% off or a good bundle (free game, PSU, or SSD). Nice to have, not life‑changing over years of use.

### 3. What I’d personally do in your shoes
If the 5070 Ti launches above your $650–$700 range, I’d:
- Watch the **non‑OC / base AIB models** (MSI Ventus, Gigabyte Eagle, Zotac Twin Edge–type cards). Those usually hit your budget first and still run fine with a sane case/airflow.
- Consider **buying slightly before** Cyber Monday if a decent price shows up. Don’t wait months just to maybe save $50 when your current card is already struggling.

So, IMO: think in terms of “Can I live with this card for 4 years at 1440p?” more than “Will I get 15% off on Cyber Monday 2025?”. Small discount won’t matter much in year 3 when the extra VRAM / stronger tier *does*.

Hope this helps! Happy to sanity‑check specific models once we see real specs/leaks closer to launch.

Hey, one angle I think you might want to consider is the DIY side rather than just "wait for the perfect 5070 Ti deal".

Background: With a $650–$700 budget, you’re right on that edge where you can either (a) blow it all on the GPU at launch/Cyber Monday or (b) DIY some smart upgrades around it to stretch value.

Why it matters: If you do the work yourself (cleaning up airflow, undervolting, repasting your current card, checking PSU quality, etc.), your 2070 Super might hold out comfortably until *after* the hype cycle. That’s usually when prices and bundles actually get sane, and you avoid paying the early‑adopter tax.

What I’d do:
- **Now:** DIY tune your current rig – undervolt GPU/CPU, optimize fan curves, maybe a cheap extra case fan. Free performance, lower temps.
- **Before 5070 Ti:** Make sure your PSU and case are ready so you don’t pay a “professional build/upgrade” fee or panic‑buy a PSU at bad pricing.
- **During Cyber Monday 2025:** Instead of only watching 5070 Ti prices, also look for DIY‑friendly combos: GPU + PSU, or GPU + case, or open‑box cards you’re comfortable testing yourself.

If you’re willing to handle installs, returns, and basic troubleshooting yourself, you can safely jump on smaller discounts and weird one‑off deals that most people skip. That usually beats waiting for one big official sale, IMO.

Hope this helps!

Hey, performance‑focused take here:

If you care mainly about FPS/experience and not squeezing every last dollar, I wouldn’t plan your whole upgrade around Cyber Monday 2025. Historically, first‑season discounts on “x070 Ti”‑class cards are tiny, but the performance jump from a 2070S → 5070 Ti at 1440p (especially with DLSS 3+/frame gen and much stronger RT hardware) is likely to be massive.

In my experience, **getting that performance 6–12 months earlier** is worth more than a 5–10% discount later, *if*:
- You’re targeting high‑refresh 1440p (120–165 Hz+)
- You actually use RT or heavy settings

So I’d do this:
- Buy near launch if reviews show ~2–2.5× your 2070S RT performance at 1440p
- Only wait for Cyber Monday if launch MSRP is way above your $700 cap
- Treat bundles as a bonus, not the main value – the real upgrade is consistent high FPS and smooth frame times

Basically: if benchmarks show it comfortably pushing 120+ FPS in the games you play at 1440p with some RT, I’d rather enjoy that all year than gamble on a small Cyber Monday drop.

Hope this helps!

Hey,

Everyone’s covered pricing and timing pretty well, so I’ll come at it from the boring-but-important angle: **how to keep that future 5070 Ti running perfectly once you get it**, especially if you’re planning to keep it a few years.

**1. Prep now with your 2070S**
If your 2070 Super is already struggling, it’s probably also running hotter/dustier than it should. I’d:
- Fully dust out the case and GPU (compressed air + soft brush, fans blocked from spinning).
- Check airflow: at least 1–2 decent intake + 1 exhaust. This will directly affect temps on the 5070 Ti later.

**2. When you finally buy the 5070 Ti**
- Avoid the cheapest AIB coolers. I’ve had issues with budget triple-fans having rattly bearings and lousy VRM temps a year in. Look for models with: decent VRM heatsinks, dual-ball or FDB fans, and a real backplate (not just plastic).
- Before installing, update BIOS on your board if it’s older. I’ve seen annoying PCIe negotiation issues with newer GPUs on older firmware.

**3. After install (this is what people skip)**
- Use DDU once, clean driver install, then **don’t** nuke drivers every month. Just keep them reasonably updated.
- Set a custom fan curve in MSI Afterburner: keep hotspot under ~80–85°C. Slightly louder but way better for long-term health.
- Once a year: open case, dust clean, re-check PCIe power cables for any discoloration or looseness (I’ve had 12VHPWR adapters go weird over time… not fun).

**4. Bundles vs price for maintenance**
Honestly, if a bundle includes a decent PSU at a real discount, that’s more valuable long term than saving an extra $20 on the GPU. Stable power + good cooling = your card actually surviving 4–5 years.

So in your shoes I’d: plan for small Cyber Monday savings, but use the time to get your case, airflow, and PSU situation dialed in. That way, whenever you do grab the 5070 Ti, you’re not cooking it from day one.

Hope this helps!

Hey, one angle I don’t see mentioned yet is **where you live** and even your climate / electricity situation.

I’ll break it down the way I’d think about it:

**Option A – Wait for Cyber Monday 2025 in US/EU “big markets”**
Pros: places like Micro Center, Best Buy, Amazon US/DE/UK usually do *some* promo even if it’s just 5–10% or a game bundle. In my experience, these regions get the earliest real discounts + better RMA support.
Cons: stock can be super regional. Some cities get killer in‑store deals, others get nothing.

**Option B – Buy earlier if you’re in a “price‑gouge” region** (Australia, parts of LATAM, smaller EU countries, etc.)
Pros: you avoid the usual import markups that hit hard right after launch and before supply stabilizes. Also, shipping and returns can be a pain later.
Cons: Cyber Monday in those regions often just mirrors MSRP with tiny “sales” that aren’t worth waiting a year for.

**Option C – Wait for *local* bundle promos, not global Cyber Monday**
Pros: in hot climates or places with expensive power, a PSU/CPU combo or store credit for a better case/extra fans might actually save you more long‑term than $50 off the GPU. A cooler, more efficient build matters a lot if your ambient temps are high or you have no AC.
Cons: harder to predict timing; these promos can pop up randomly, not just on Cyber Monday.

If you’re in a hot/humid place or somewhere with flaky power, I’d honestly:
- **Budget a bit for a quality PSU and airflow** (case fans, maybe a better case) alongside the 5070 Ti.
- Prioritize a card with a beefy cooler, even if it’s $20–30 more, because throttling in 30°C+ rooms is real.
- Check what brands have good **local RMA centers**; a discount means nothing if shipping a dead card across borders costs you $60.

So IMO:
- **Big US/EU market + decent AC/electricity?** Option A (wait for Cyber Monday) or C (bundles) makes sense.
- **Smaller / expensive market or very hot region?** Lean toward B or C: buy when stock stabilizes and grab a reliable AIB + PSU/cooling deal, instead of banking on a huge Cyber Monday price drop that may never hit your region.

Might help if you say what country you’re in; deal patterns are *wildly* different.

Hope this helps a bit!

One extra angle nobody’s really hit yet: from an eco / energy side, I’d actually wait for the 5070 Ti *and* Cyber Monday. Newer mid‑high cards usually give way more FPS per watt than older gens, so upgrading from a 2070S could literally lower your power use at the same performance. If you can, I’d watch for slightly undervolted / efficiency‑tuned AIB models (or cards with dual BIOS “eco” mode) and maybe prioritize those over tiny $20–30 price cuts; over a few years of gaming that can save a decent chunk on your power bill and footprint. So yeah, Cyber Monday might not slash the sticker price a ton, but stacking: small discount + efficient 5070 Ti + maybe a PSU bundle that’s 80+ Gold/Platinum is, imo, the most cost‑effective *and* environmentally friendlier upgrade path.